I'm not keen on
this, at all. I can already see that the gDNA Twitter feed is affecting my browsing experience in a negative way. When I log on to my PC, TweetDeck tells me that so-and-so did such-and-such on the site, and as part of my morning routine, I'm simultaneously loading several tabs in a browser (one of which is my gDNA Home page) - so I end up getting two updates for the same thing. The end result, I imagine, is that people are going to come to the site
less because they're getting so many updates about specific things on the site from other networking applications that general browsing becomes mostly a pointless exercise in repetition, and they're thus going to miss a lot of new content that's not on their watchlist.
Imagine how irritating it's going to be when you get multiple updates on all of your networks for all of your friends. Even if it's only "once an hour" - dude, c'mon. That's probably an average of five updates a day, for each friend? Multiply that by however many friends you HAVE, and I suspect some people are either going to remove friends from one or more networks in order to cut down on the redundant alerts, or stop using gDNA.
Some people might like getting pinged from five different applications every hour, but I sure as hell wouldn't, and I imagine I'm not the only one. Most of the people I talk to on a regular basis hate Facebook, MySpace, etc. in great part because of the excessive amount of (mis)information that's posted everywhere - it's essentially spam of useless crap we'd rather not see, but there's no way to impose our own filters on it. We're forced to absorb it all whilst hunting down the morsels of information that we're actually interested in, and it very quickly becomes both tedious and frustrating.
Example. As a PC gamer, I have pretty much zero interest in what my gDNA friends did on their Xboxes yesterday, or the day before, or for the entire last two weeks. Whenever gDNA incorporates Steam and Xfire, I'm not going to want to see those activity logs either. And the reason is that
I'm not interested in what people are doing - I'm interested in what they are thinking. I'm sure I'm not alone in this "give me useful information or give me a kick in the face" subset of the gDNA userbase, and if possible I would prefer
never to see the activity updates - on my own page or on other people's. But gDNA doesn't seem to have a way to turn those off.
I noticed that there's an option somewhere (either in the gDNA panel or the profile settings page, I forget which) to set which type of feed you want visitors to your page to see by default (i.e. All Experiences, Stories, or Game Feed). I've set mine to be Stories, as I'll never have a Game Feed until I start using Xfire (and even then I'd still rather people see my stories), but I wish there was also (or instead) an option to set which feed you see on OTHER people's pages by default. The concept of browsing preferences is not new, and it's extremely popular for a reason.
When I go to a new person's profile page, I don't want to see what game they've played in the last hour - I want to see if they've written any gaming experiences, because those matter 1000x more to me than Xbox activity. There will always be a number of people interested in playing activity, so the current site layout is great for them - but giving those people exclusive priority over the ones who couldn't give a flying fruitcake is, I think, a mistake.
A social networking site that wants to satisfy its users is constantly treading the line between versatility and annoyance, balancing out features that people want with information overload. In this particular instance I'm of the opinion that we're dipping into the latter, and either they need to introduce options to limit these new features (for those who'd rather not deal with them) or take them out altogether.
I didn't want to post up a comment on that blog about it, because I appreciate that the website staff are just trying to make this place more interesting for us - but I hope they don't forget that some people prefer a much more streamlined, non-redundant experience, and that is a big part of why we were interested in gDNA to begin with. We came here, it was slick and useful, without too many extra fiddly bits, and we liked it for its relative simplicity. The more things that are added, the less simple this site is going to get - and, accordingly, the less interested we will be in using it.
And it would be a shame to leave, because I quite like it here.
Personally I signed up for Twitter to use with Raptr, and now gDNA, so I don't really use it for blogging in the regular sense, meaning it's closer to the opposite of what you just described.
I don't play games nearly as often as I "should", so whomever reads my tweets shouldn't get annoyed by non-stop updates.
My gDNA Experiences and forum posts are mine, not the gDNA Bot's, so more personal than "You played game X for Y minutes and earned Z score", so I don't mind if the gaming gDNA community reads those, but I feel less comfortable showing the whole world by default.
It's really cool that gDNA lets you choose which kinds of updates you want to pass on to Twitter (and tumblr, and more in the future apparently).
In the end Twitter users (writers) can use it for whatever they want, and subscribers can either subscribe, or not.
Perhaps if Twitter supported tags, so you could only filter out game-related or personal tweets, it would be more subscriber-friendly, but that would make things more complicated, perhaps too much so, as it's really nice and clean, and easy to use now.
It's possible to people to sign up a Twitter account for regular blogging, and another one for their gaming things, or something like that to work around it.
Every gDNA profile page has an Activity list which is also made into a news feed.
You could do a feature request to have different feeds for the different kinds of updates if you use a news aggregator.
Also you could request the option that gDNA wouldn't update Twitter every single hour, but I'm sure others would like to update as often as possible.
Hmmm, I don't really see a good solution for your problem.
Seeing it crop up everywhere is actually making it even less desirable to use.
As for the whole what-people-see-when-they-go-to-your-profile... I didn't realize you could customize that, and I will. I am a Xbox gamer and a PC gamer and I use xfire, but I somehow doubt that what I've gamed, how long I've gamed and what achievements I got are of any interest to most people. If they judge me based on that, then that's just sad.
We are hearing your comment, and we know that you surely represent one of many who feel the same way. Imran has already sent this post to the company, and I myself will ensure that we bring this up in the product team to look at how we can improve on this feature to let everyone get what they want out of it.
To give you a little bit more about our reasoning behind things like the automated feeds etc, and why we embrace them so much. In short, we agree with you totally that the 'stories', and 'experiences' of gaming are what makes gaming, and gamers special. And we know that when you tell your friends what you did in a game last night, you don't start by saying 'I played for 12 hours'.
But unfortunately, most folks aren't the types to write out nice posts, and upload images and such. The feeds are an effortless way for some information to come in and be shared without any work having to be done on the part of the member. They are an attempt on our part to help seed things, so that folks can embellish more about what they did. I think we still have a ways to go to make the system better, so that it is less mundane, and so that people can personalize it more easily.
As for the Twitter/Tumblr (and more) integration, this is our very first stab at really trying to connect where gamers play to where they communicate. We want to provide as many ways as possible to help you share your gaming with who you want, in the way you want. We are keeping a close eye on this feature, and those that are coming along behind it, and refining them based on what everyone thinks /and how they use it.
Again, thanks very much for your feedback on this, and we are most definitely listening to you.
We do our best to keep the desires of our members in the forefront of product development. Unsolicited feedback like this is so extremely helpful when trying to do that. It gives us reason for further development, creates a foundation for the argument of change and, in the end, makes our product better. So, in short, you rock - and thanks!
Wormy did a good job of expressing our reasoning behind the development of this feature. The only other thing I would mention is something you and a few other members brought up here and that's allowing our members to make clear preference choices when it comes to their gamerDNA experience. We gave this a solid first pass when it comes to the feature and we certainly plan on continual improvement as we learn about how people are using it. This goes for all the other features on the site. We have some exciting developments on the horizon (re-designs, features and fundamental approach shifts). I definitely urge you to stick around as I'm sure you'll be pleased.
Hey, thanks for the appreciation of our hard work **hugs** and know that we're continually doing our best to make gamerDNA a fun, meaningful, and exciting place to be a part of.
I just started using Twitter and was enjoying some of the election coverage as well as other interesting things folks had to say. Now, I have to scroll through lots of things I have no interest in (such as how much someone played such-and-sucha game).
Kongregate has been doing this for Facebook for a while now and it is THE most incredibly fucking annoying spam "Feature" of all time.
You get a popup in the bottom corner of the page as you play each game if you're logged into Facebook, _and_ a "handy" reminder when you next go to your facebook page, with no immediate/clear option to tell them to piss off.
None of my friends care that I spent 20 minutes playing some stupid flash game, nor should they, or I. The _only_ reason it exists is kongregate praying 5 of my friends who wouldn't otherwise see it, go "Ooooh!" and visit the page to see what it is. There is 0 value to users over the 6-second initial "Oooh, neat" factor, it is advertising, and borderline spam in the default-on form, and I think more users than they realise are aware of the fact.
These micro-feed things work great to integrate as "mini-posts" into an upgraded format of a traditional blog, and I think with this sort of feature and a well planned layout it's a huge upgrade of blogging in general (See jeffcroft.com for a great example) but for places like this/Facebook they are a total waste of time. "on-by-default" for them is just plain obnoxious.
Occasional value for the site perhaps but many users are going to recognise it as a blatant crowd-grabbing attempt that's likely to fail anyway as people are just forced to add it to already over-burdened eye->brain "ignore lists".
This twitter one isn't _quite_ as bad as the Facebook stuff I've seen in the past, I must admit, but it's still really pushing its luck, I really hope you don't bother with the Facebook one if it's as aggravating as everywhere else I've seen it.